Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming up on Art Palace. 

Speaker 2 (00:02):
He's very good looking. He's like 2019 hot. He looks like he smells good. Out of all of 

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Welcome to Art Palace, produced by Cincinnati Art Museum. This is your host, Russell iig. Here at the Art Palace, we meet cool people and then talk to them about art. Today's cool person is Chelsea Baker from Block Party Event Co. Chelsea and I are both big fans of the Bachelor franchise, the reality show where about 25 singles compete for the chance to get engaged to the chosen bachelor or bachelorette. Each week on the show, a number of roses are given, allowing contestants to stay in the competition, not receiving a rose means you are sent home. I invited Chelsea to the museum to play a game where we pretended the artworks were contestants on the show and then tried to figure out who will get the final rose. Obviously, this episode is based in fantasy, so please don't take the majority of our comments as historical facts since much of it is blatant fabrication. Also, this episode is maybe a bit more body than usual, but we don't say anything that is inappropriate for primetime tv. Hey, Chelsea, how are 

Speaker 2 (01:34):
You? I'm great. How are you, Russell? 

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Okay. So we should probably explain how we know each other, our relationship, because we're going to be probably really familiar with each other in a way that is not normal for the episode. 

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, 

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Lots of 

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Weird innuendo, and 

Speaker 1 (01:50):
So people would just be like, what is this? So Chelsea, you started here, I'm not even sure what, 

Speaker 2 (01:57):
2014, I think. 

Speaker 1 (01:59):
2014 

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Summer camp. 

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Summer camp, 

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah. And 

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Then that was just when we weren't even doing full weeks. It was just day class. 

Speaker 2 (02:07):
The whole thing was chaos. No, 

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, yeah, they were in our 

Speaker 2 (02:11):
World 

Speaker 1 (02:12):
In the 

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Basement. 

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Right, right. It's basement camp, as we called it 

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Now. It was every other day. 

Speaker 1 (02:17):
That's right. 

Speaker 2 (02:17):
And full day, I think. 

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, and it was, but 

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Split, 

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Right. One kid just came to one day, the 

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Ages were 

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Split. Yeah, that's right. And then you went to the front desk 

Speaker 2 (02:28):
For a little bit before the rec opened. 

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah. And then when our new education center opened, you became the manager of that and you were here for did that for a year or more? 

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, more than close to two. I think I was two. Okay. Yeah. 

Speaker 1 (02:43):
And then you went to Canada? 

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah. Then I went to Canada and I started working in the wedding and events industry there and worked for a wedding planner and really kind of fell in love with that industry and that side of things. And then now I'm back. We moved back in October and I started my own business. 

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Nice. So what's it called? 

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Block Party Event Co. 

Speaker 1 (03:05):
It's 

Speaker 2 (03:05):
A event planning and styling company. Oh, cool. And yeah, really excited. Have my first clients getting married in September. You know them as well. 

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I do. That's how I found out that you were doing this. Yay. Sarah told me about this actually after I'd already talked to you about being on 

Speaker 2 (03:20):
This episode. Oh, didn't know. Yeah, 

Speaker 1 (03:22):
I didn't know. So exciting. She said, yeah, she's starting a wedding planning company and she's doing my wedding. And I was like, oh, that's so perfect for the episode. And she thought I was really happy. And then she was like, oh, wait, you're just excited about your episode. You, 

Speaker 2 (03:37):
You're like, wait, are you planning another wedding? What's going on? And 

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Then she's like, you're not actually happy for me, are you? It was like, oh, yeah. 

Speaker 2 (03:45):
She's like, wow, Russell, you're really into this. 

Speaker 1 (03:47):
She thought I was being really generous at first, and then she realized I was only thinking of myself. I was like, oh, yeah, no, I was just totally thinking because of the theme of the episode. 

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Just all the connections. Yeah, yeah. No, so that doesn't surprise me one bit, by the way. 

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah. Actually, this is perfect because I wanted to bring you here today because it's a perfect, because, well, first of all, the museum is a beautiful place to be married. We 

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Should mention It is. It absolutely is. Yeah. 

Speaker 1 (04:17):
People will get married here constantly 

Speaker 2 (04:19):
All the time 

Speaker 1 (04:20):
About as many weddings as we have other things going on. So yeah, I mean, you can't come September. You won't be able to throw a rock in this place without hitting a bride. 

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I know, and I know. I hope I get to work on some weddings here too eventually. 

Speaker 1 (04:32):
That would be the dream. That would be awesome. The reason I'm even talking about marriage is because it's January and one of my favorite television programs has Restarted, which is The Bachelor, and you are one of the few people I know who actually knows enough about the Bachelor and Art. 

Speaker 2 (04:50):
I do. 

Speaker 1 (04:52):
It's a very small Venn diagram, I feel like, of how these two things overlap 

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Very small. So 

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I was like, oh, Chelsea. Chelsea would be perfect, and she's back in town, and so that is why I brought you here because I created, this was back when we had a program called Fandom and I made this game up where we could play basically the Bachelor. Okay. Technically it's the Bachelorette that we're going to play. So I created this game where we would play essentially a season of the Bachelor Bachelorette in the galleries using the artwork as contestants, and I was so proud of it. I probably have worked harder on this than I've worked on anything else in my, 

Speaker 2 (05:38):
This is your magnum 

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Opus. In my career here at the Art Museum, I see it certainly more on this than I did for any tour ever 

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Before. 

Speaker 1 (05:47):
And I showed up wearing a suit and Chris Harrison and I had a big basket full of roses. So every person who going to come to it was going to get a rose, and we were going to use that to vote. One lady showed up, an older lady who I asked her if she was a fan of the show, and she said she never seen it before. 

Speaker 2 (06:11):
That's about how my House of Cards tour went here when I spent lots and lots of hours rewatching the whole show to give a tour. 

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah. 

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Two ladies never seen the show, 

Speaker 1 (06:21):
And maybe I was in the wrong, but I basically was like, I don't think you're going to like this. And so I didn't even bother doing, did 

Speaker 2 (06:29):
You guys just go to lunch? 

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Oh, we just caught up. Yeah. No, we should have done that. I felt bad. I did feel a little bad for her, but I felt mostly bad for my seat. 

Speaker 2 (06:38):
I love that you wore a suit. 

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Well, it was extra sad. I was walking back to my desk carrying these roses in a suit, and it was 

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Like you were like had just gotten voted off. It was 

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Like a person who didn't get a rose on the bed, especially when they were just at a date and they did not expect it, and they get sent home. 

Speaker 2 (06:55):
That's 

Speaker 1 (06:55):
How I felt. 

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Right. It was a failed attempt, 

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Rejected 

Speaker 2 (07:00):
To find love. Your journey ended before it began. 

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Exactly. So anyway, you've been watching The Bachelor for probably longer than Me. I think I 

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Watched the very first season with my mother in what, 2002? 

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, I think it was around there. Yeah, I was 

Speaker 2 (07:15):
In eighth grade, I think so, but then I took breaks. I haven't seen all of them by any stretch. I mean, has anybody really, has Chris Harrison seen all of them? 

Speaker 1 (07:26):
There was an episode in the moment in the last episode that looked like somebody went and woke Chris Harrison up because he had just been clearly checked out. I mean, I know 

Speaker 2 (07:35):
He just phones it in, especially Bachelor in Paradise. It's like Chris is just there living in a ppa and they call him once a week to just check on things. 

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Just go have my tie and just drop in 

Speaker 2 (07:47):
And 

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Read a letter to somebody or something. 

Speaker 2 (07:49):
So I'm watching Colton season right now. 

Speaker 1 (07:52):
I 

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Am in the middle of that, which is, he's not my favorite. 

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Okay. Here's the thing. I was ready when they picked him. I did not like him, and I was like, this guy, I just thought he was kind of boring. 

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, yeah. 

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I was mostly, I think, angry that his whole story hijacked Bachelor in Paradise and basically made it the Colton Tia show, and 

Speaker 2 (08:13):
It was not interesting to me. 

Speaker 1 (08:15):
So I was sort of annoyed that he was chosen, but he's kind of winning me over. 

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Really? Yeah. All those shower shots, 

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Context, 

Speaker 2 (08:26):
He's topless 98% of the show right now. 

Speaker 1 (08:30):
So I heard that they did literally a whole day of shooting him in the shower. In the shower, yes. 

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh, his skin, the pruning. Can you imagine? Oh my God. 

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah. I mean they've also, there's that same shot of him shirtless working out 

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Over with the 

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Ropes. They've shown that once an episode. 

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah. Well, I 

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Think they're just so excited to have a real dream boat back in the scene. That's 

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Very true. Very 

Speaker 1 (08:55):
True. Ari 

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Was 

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Not 

Speaker 2 (08:56):
That. No. 

Speaker 1 (08:58):
I mean, I don't know if anyone liked Dari. 

Speaker 2 (09:00):
No. 

Speaker 1 (09:01):
And you certainly, they did not play up his attractiveness. 

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah. And Nick was awkward, funny, but not, he was good looking, but he's not like 

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Colton is very traditional. I mean, 

Speaker 2 (09:15):
He's like an Adonis. 

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, 

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Corn fed Adonis, 

Speaker 1 (09:20):
But he's winning me over. I think he actually has way more personality than I feel like also the last few, 

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Certainly 

Speaker 1 (09:27):
More than Artie, more than Nick showed. Like you said. I think Nick is really awkward on camera, and 

Speaker 2 (09:33):
He used to not be good looking when he first was on, he was a little softer around the he a little softer a little. 

Speaker 1 (09:46):
So I don't know. He's winning me over every time I watch out. Like I think I like him as a person. I think I'm starting to like him. So also I've been pretty happy with the season in general because so far I feel like this season has been less gross in some of the ways 

Speaker 2 (10:03):
It's early, but yes, 

Speaker 1 (10:04):
It is. That's true. That is very true. I mean, you can already still spot the two on one a mile away where you're like, oh, it's going to be the two pageant girls. They're going to have a two on one. You can spot all of the trademark things, but then again, they set it up with this, you assumed that Catherine was going to be this really big villain 

Speaker 2 (10:24):
In 

Speaker 1 (10:24):
The show, and then she's already gone. 

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah. Bye. 

Speaker 1 (10:28):
I think Catherine thought she was going to walk in with a Pomeranian and just be 

Speaker 2 (10:32):
The 

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Villain right off the bat and not have to put in any actual work for it. And then Demi was like, oh, no, no, I've got this. Don't worry. I'm going to come in and be crazy and say crazy stuff. So 

Speaker 2 (10:42):
True. 

Speaker 1 (10:43):
So anyway, I actually have been enjoying it. It's fun to watch, even though it's like sometimes the show is terribly boring 

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Too, and sometimes you feel bad about yourself for watching it. Sometimes they cross the line. 

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Sometimes you need to take a bath after. 

Speaker 2 (10:57):
That's why Bachelor in Paradise is still my number one. I get the most enjoyment out of Will zip. 

Speaker 1 (11:02):
It's much more laid back and sillier, 

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Self-referential and 

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Aware. Yeah. It knows how goofy it is, and it is not trying to be serious. I guess we should get to this game. I have devised, like I said, we're actually playing the Bachelorette, not the Bachelor. 

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh, we are? 

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yes. Because 

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Of me or no? 

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yes, because of you. We'll say that. So we are playing The Bachelorette, and the first thing we have to do is actually choose who's going to be our bachelorette from last season, 

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Right? 

Speaker 1 (11:35):
So we're going to choose from the ladies in this room who's going to be our bachelorette. And so we've got a couple of, we've got some options, and I have some descriptions here of the different ladies. We are in Gallery 2 0 2, which is sort of our Renaissance and Baroque gallery, and there's a lot of great ladies to choose from that Were in this 

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Also. A lot of babies 

Speaker 1 (11:59):
There. A lot of babies. We're 

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Going to avoid the babies. 

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah. They're not up for selection. So actually, when I planned this back a year ago, we did have one painting up that is not, and that is our Samson and Delilah. So I don't know if we should just eliminate her from the competition, but I did have a really great description written for her, which is this fiery redhead is one of those people who you just want to tell all of your secrets too. And while she may not keep those secrets, it'll feel so good to open up and really connect. She may have been eliminated for stealing a lock of the Bachelor's hair, but not before she stole our hearts. So that was Delilah, sadly, contractually, she's not allowed to participate in the show anymore because of 

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Delilah came down with something. 

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Sorry. So that was Delilah from the Ruben's painting. She is no longer on view, so I guess we'll eliminate her. 

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Maybe she just found a man. 

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yes, maybe so then we have Eleanor, who is, she's 27 from Florence, Italy, and this is from the Bronzino painting. And so Eleanora definitely played up her family last season on The Bachelor. And while the constant phone calls back home to her children was heartwarming, the Bachelor was probably spooked during hometown's week when he realized he was not ready to be a stepdad to eight spoiled Medici children. So there's Eleanora as one of our options. And then we have Venus from the Simone painting, Tette a Venus. Many of the women on the Bachelor are called a goddess, but only one of them literally is. Venus is an international beauty who hails from Rome. She loves Fellini films, scooter rides, gelato, and talking with her hands here, we see her in her tette preparing for a big date. One look at her and all the boys say that's a morere. 

Speaker 2 (14:08):
She's got a very Colton look going on right now. She sand most of her clothing. 

Speaker 1 (14:14):
And then finally we have maybe the most unlikely of contestants, a tropos from Greece who is approximately 13.8 billion years old. 

Speaker 2 (14:27):
And she looks at guys, 

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, she may be ancient, but this gal knows how to party during the day. A tropos works as a cutter who ends the life of mortals by cutting their life thread with her horrible shears. But after hours, she can usually be seen on Bourbon Street bearing all for beads. A tropos had a minor scandal last season when it was discovered she had starred in a Fates Gone Wild video. So that's a tropos. I'm going to leave the choice up to you because there's not enough people to vote. 

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I, 

Speaker 1 (15:07):
And like I said, I think we should probably just go ahead and eliminate Delilah because she has 

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Been Delilah's out, 

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Taken off you. And this will affect because our who we choose is going to affect, we're going to keep this person in mind as far as who they might choose on our 

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Future. 

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, 

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I can't, I mean, a Tropos has just given me vibes, but if you have a suggestion, 

Speaker 1 (15:34):
You want to go a Tropos? 

Speaker 2 (15:35):
I think I do. 

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I love a Tropo 

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Let's a tropos. 

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Alright. 

Speaker 2 (15:40):
I think she deserves it. After 13 billion years 

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Of 

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Searching for a soulmate. It's her time. 

Speaker 1 (15:47):
So a Tropos is our bachelorette, and she is an older woman than we usually have on the show at 13.8 billion years. I think 

Speaker 2 (15:58):
The average is around 21, 22 typically. 

Speaker 1 (16:01):
So those are just some things to keep in mind that she, she's older, but she's also a wild, she's a 

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Part. She has killer calves. 

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Oh my gosh. Look at 

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Those 

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Calves. Yeah. Yeah. The reason, so in the painting, her bosom is exposed. 

Speaker 2 (16:16):
It is. She doesn't look a day over like 75 though. She's still looking pretty good for 13 billion. I feel like 

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Every time I've read anything about a tropos, it says something about basically how horribly ugly she is. 

Speaker 2 (16:31):
It's 

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Like part of the legend is like she's the oldest and ugliest of the faints 

Speaker 2 (16:35):
And 

Speaker 1 (16:36):
It's crazy because they're supposed to basically be eternal. So it's like why does it even matter their ages? 

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Right. 

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Okay. So now how it's going to work is now we're going to go on some group dates like you do on the Bachelor. So typically on the Bachelor or Bachelorette, we do have some one-on-one dates, but we also have these bigger group dates, and then a lot of times somebody wins a date rose from those. 

Speaker 2 (17:05):
So 

Speaker 1 (17:05):
We're playing a very simplified version. We're just going, we're going to do a couple of group dates and then we'll whittle that down. So for our first date, I thought you might like to go Dutch. That's right. We're going to the Dutch Gallery. So for this first group date, we've got four guys to choose from here. So the first one up, we have the mystery man. So he's over here in the corner of the gallery. This is an anonymous portrait of a man in an So that's why I've called him the mystery man, because we don't really know who he is. So who's this mysterious man? He's not telling and neither are we. Tall, dark, and handsome is all you need to know. Those cold chains scream Rich, rich, rich. And his baton tells us he has a military job or something. What a catch. So what do you think his chances are with the tropos here? 

Speaker 2 (18:15):
I mean, he's got armor on and it looks like he'll need it with her. 

Speaker 1 (18:19):
She's wild. So she might attack you. She has a weapon. 

Speaker 2 (18:23):
She's into ending the 

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Life of mortals. Mortals. That's true. 

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Also really fond of his chains. Those look pretty hip. And the beard's nice. It splits in the middle in a way that I haven't seen. 

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I mean, this dude would look not terribly out of place in O T R, right? 

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah. He's supposed to wearing a beret, I think, or some kind of modified beret. I 

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Think you are correct. That is some 

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Sort of, it's just a lot going on with this guy's. Look, he's got a lot of look. I like it. Yeah, 

Speaker 1 (18:53):
I like it too. Okay, well let's move over to our next fella. This is verus from the Painting and Pomona. Do you know anything about this painting? 

Speaker 2 (19:07):
I didn't know that was a man. 

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yes, 

Speaker 2 (19:10):
I think I thought it was an old woman. 

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Okay, well there's an explanation. 

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Alright. Alright. 

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Most guys would walk away when a lady refused their proposal, but not vertus. This guy knows that the way to a woman's heart isn't by taking her wishes seriously, but through transfiguration just transform into an old lady who brow beats your sweetheart into submission. Our bachelorette would be lucky to have a guy who goes to such lengths. So yeah, he is also an immortal 

Speaker 2 (19:41):
And 

Speaker 1 (19:41):
He transformed himself into several people and finally into this old woman who tells Pomona, basically he makes some allegory about love and she's like, oh, you were right. I need to marry that. And then she does. 

Speaker 2 (19:58):
So does he marry her? Does she marry? Wait, he's Vertus 

Speaker 1 (20:01):
The old. He's a shapeshifter. 

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Does he turn back? Is it like Beauty and the Beast? 

Speaker 1 (20:08):
I think so. 

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Okay. Okay, great. Yeah, 

Speaker 1 (20:12):
What a catch, right? 

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah. I mean, 

Speaker 1 (20:15):
I've had a lot of people when I point out that this story is kind of creepy. They tell me I'm 

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Wrong 

Speaker 1 (20:21):
And that it's a very sweet story. 

Speaker 2 (20:23):
It's very sweet. Yes. And I'm like, are you sure? Well, again, I think we need somebody who's crafty for, 

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well, I mean the other good thing is they're both very ancient beings. 

Speaker 2 (20:37):
They do look around the same age in 

Speaker 1 (20:39):
This painting. This painting. They're right. I mean, 

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Which it is important that we find somebody age appropriate for our 

Speaker 1 (20:46):
That's 

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Bachelorette. 

Speaker 1 (20:48):
So let's go over, we have another one. Somebody a little younger actually, but I mean, I don't know what Tropos tastes. It's hard to say who she would go for. 

Speaker 2 (20:59):
I don't think we've ever seen a bachelorette go for a much younger man on the show yet, 

Speaker 1 (21:03):
So that's true. 

Speaker 2 (21:05):
But we see the Bachelor go for much younger women all the time. 

Speaker 1 (21:09):
So we're looking at the music party by, and I am going to massacre this name, Gerard Ter Borsch, I don't know, I am real sorry. Sorry, Gerard. And we don't actually know this fellow's name, but we're looking at the curly haired guy here. 

Speaker 2 (21:27):
So 

Speaker 1 (21:28):
I've renamed him Pieter. So this gal may be playing the loot, but Pieter is only interested in her bongos. This Dutch dandy just loves music. Invite him over to sing some diddies, and as long as you happen to be a beautiful young lady, he'll show up with music in hand. Peter certainly knows how to have a good time. He's already made out with the bachelorette three times. Whoa. But is this Playboy ready to settle down? 

Speaker 2 (21:57):
How old is he supposed to be? 

Speaker 1 (21:59):
I would call in my unofficial game here. I've made him 21. 

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Okay, okay. 

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I think that's fair for this sort of lecherous cad 

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Type 

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Man, he doesn't look that, I mean, he looks pretty young. 

Speaker 2 (22:14):
He's very rosy cheeks 

Speaker 1 (22:16):
For the sake of being on TV now, I think that would be about the youngest you could be on this show 

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Is 

Speaker 1 (22:23):
21. They wouldn't put somebody who's like 18. 

Speaker 2 (22:28):
I don't remember if there's ever been anyone that young. 

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Everybody's always cleared 20. I feel like 

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Real World had some 18 year olds on it. I remember that. 

Speaker 1 (22:35):
So our last one we're cheating. I said we're going Dutch, but he's actually in the French Gallery, but I want to say he's German. Yeah, so it's a self-portrait by a German artist. So the artist worked in a number of courts in France, and so he probably was in France when he made this painting. So it fits in with these. Are we talking 

Speaker 2 (22:55):
About the dog? 

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yes, the dog. Sorry. This is Martin who is also the artist. This is a self portrait, self portrait. Every season needs a nice soft boy. And that's Martin. He's an artist and animal lover who keeps offering to paint the Bachelorette, like one of his French girls. He writes flowery poetry that compares her eyes to the moon or equates other body parts with national parks. So far there has been some tensions in the house because Martin can't handle the macho mystery man who constantly taunts him for his sensitive ways. But Martin takes it all in stride and confides his feelings to his faithful companion Bruno, 

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Who needs his nails trimmed. 

Speaker 1 (23:35):
He does look at those talons on that puppy. Yeah, so Martin's the sensitive boy, 

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Right? So Martin would be, he's 

Speaker 1 (23:42):
An artist. 

Speaker 2 (23:42):
He'd be in the last two with the man if history serves us. Maybe he'd 

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Probably be on a 2 1 1. 

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Maybe he'd go out at the family, the family visits or the top three, top four. 

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah. I mean that's the thing. When you see those 2 1 1 conflicts like he's got with the mystery man, they never survive, right? 

Speaker 2 (24:01):
No, the soft one, they always go with the jerks, but 

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Even whoever they pick on the two on one, they're not long for this world. They're going to be dropped in a matter of episode. You almost 

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Lost by one person. 

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Going on a two-on-one is a death sentence no matter what. Whether you win the two on one, it doesn't matter because you're going home soon enough because you've basically only been kept around on the show to provide this conflict that the show can cut to when things are getting a bit dry elsewhere. 

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Right? Right, exactly. 

Speaker 1 (24:30):
It's usually not because you have a great relationship with the Bachelor bachelorette. So yeah, I don't know if Martin's going to make it. So out of these four, who are you leaning to? Who's going to win the Rose in this group date? 

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I think it's got to be the mystery man. 

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Okay. 

Speaker 2 (24:47):
I think he's right up her alley. 

Speaker 1 (24:50):
You like his style? I do. You like his armor, which can protect him from horrible shears. So yeah, 

Speaker 2 (24:57):
She's literally stabbing people with scissors in her painting, so 

Speaker 1 (25:02):
He seems like he could handle it. I'm a little surprised. Well, okay. It's your choice. I'm a little surprised. Didn't pull ahead just with I felt like they had a lot in common, but sometimes maybe it's too much in common. 

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Would be good too. I dunno. 

Speaker 1 (25:20):
I think maybe you're right. Maybe she wants to be in control. I don't think she would tolerate another person and then another eternal being be 

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Right. Right. It could be quite a volatile relationship when you think about it. 

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, I think you're right. Maybe the mystery man is where it's at. Okay, so Mystery Man is our first date winner. So for our next date we're going to Joo London. So you can now imagine the show when they would play Hail Britannia and stuff and they would cut to the 

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Same B-roll of 

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Big band, big 

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Ben or the I, whatever it is, double 

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Double decker buses and stuff. That's what the show is doing. Cobble Stone. Exactly. That's where we're going. 

Speaker 2 (26:11):
We've got Rick. 

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Rick, we can start with Rick. Let's start with 

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Rick. With 

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Rick over here. I love 

Speaker 2 (26:17):
A man with a dog. Another dog. I 

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Know it's our second. Another 

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Man, 

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Second dog owner. Yeah, this is Rick also. Full name is Richard Pierce Simons painted by Sir Joshua Reynolds. But on the show he's definitely just known as Rick. Rick cares a lot about how he looks from his perfectly coffered wig to the buckles on his shoes. This is a, who knows the importance of a good public image. So it's no accident that we see him here in front of crumbling Roman ruins since in reality he's never even left England. The question is, will the Bachelorette choose style over substance? What do you think about Rick? 

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Again, points for the dog and I like a confident man. 

Speaker 1 (27:06):
He's definitely got confidence. 

Speaker 2 (27:07):
He's definitely got confidence. So I think he's a good choice. He might be a little, like you said, style of a substance. 

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah. Yeah. I 

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Don't know how much substance a tropo really needs though. Maybe she just wants some arm candy she's got. 

Speaker 1 (27:26):
That's true. 

Speaker 2 (27:26):
She seems to have her own a lot going on. She's lived the whole life. 

Speaker 1 (27:29):
She's lived it. Maybe 

Speaker 2 (27:30):
She just wants to settle down. She's just looking for a good time right now with a dog and a fireplace and a very well manicured French man. 

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I should mention British man. I should mention that this is true that Rick never Rick, I still calling him Rick. Richard never actually visited, never left England, because I've said a lot of things that are blatant lies, 

Speaker 2 (27:51):
But that part was true. He never 

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Left. Continue. I realize is the problem with this episode is that half of this stuff is just me. You're not 

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Learning anything. Me 

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Making up jokes about the paintings and then sometimes they're real and sometimes they're not. So we're going over to another painting now to look at our next contestant. This is a painting by Nathaniel Dance called a portrait. Oh my gosh. This title is a doozy, A portrait of Sir James and Lady Hodges. Their sons, John, James and Henry and their daughters Mary and Elizabeth. Wow. Now our contestant is Henry who is in the Red Coat. 

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Okay. 

Speaker 1 (28:29):
So how would you describe Henry in this? 

Speaker 2 (28:33):
I mean, he looks real fancy. He's definitely giving off eligible bachelor vibes. 

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Here's my description for Henry. Henry is always the coolest guy in the room, and the Bachelorette loves his laid back style. Just look at him just chilling with the fam. Dude is unflappable. One time back in high school, he went on this date with a girl and his little brother tried to punk him by replacing all of his rap tapes with Ace of Bass. But Henry just acted like nothing was wrong and that's why the sign went to number one in the charts. 

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Wow. Yep. I had no idea 

Speaker 1 (29:10):
That's the true history. I 

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Watched a lot of pop-up video growing up and they never 

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Covered 

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Talked that, never 

Speaker 1 (29:15):
About that. Yeah. 

Speaker 2 (29:16):
He's got what we call swagger for sure. 

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Definitely does. Yeah. 

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Again, confident gray hair, similar to Rick, beautiful Red Coat he, he showed up to this family portrait. I am going to steal the show. This is now my portrait. 

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah. I think he's the guy on the show that's so confident that nobody else even bothers messing with him and he doesn't need to start any trouble. Whenever somebody's starting a lot of trouble on the show, you're like, oh, they're desperate. 

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, they're 

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Done. They're not getting the attention 

Speaker 2 (29:51):
They need. Yeah, no, 

Speaker 1 (29:53):
He's just laid back. He's in it to win it. I think 

Speaker 2 (29:56):
So too. Okay, 

Speaker 1 (29:57):
So our next guy, we're going to go over here to the Italian comedians. So this is a painting by Philippe Messier. Again, I said we're going to England, but we do have a French painting just in mind. 

Speaker 2 (30:14):
I mean there's a lot of crossover. 

Speaker 1 (30:15):
There's just some weird stuff here and there that I'm sure makes sense to somebody. Our contestant here, again, I don't have a name for this gentleman in the painting, so we don't know his real name, so I've just decided to name him Giuseppe. 

Speaker 2 (30:30):
He looks like a Giuseppe. 

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yes, because it's Italian comedians. Yeah. 

Speaker 2 (30:34):
So 

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Tonight Giuseppe put on a body performance of Come Del Ate to Impress the Bachelorette. Not only was it full of naughty innuendo and bass humor, but it also conveniently poked fun at the other gentleman on the date, all of whom are a part of the upper crust and look down on his profession. Will the Bachelorette find this literal clown funny or send him back on tour? 

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah, he's the cat of the group, isn't he? Yes. Yeah. Who's he similar to? Maybe Joe the Grocer. Do you remember or No, Joe's nice. 

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Joe's 

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Chris the Duck. What was his name? What's his name? 

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Goose. 

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Goose. Do you remember that guy Goose? He was real like 

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Real 

Speaker 2 (31:15):
New Jersey. 

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah. They had him on the premier this year in the hot tub with Crystal. Yeah. Which is the weirdest thing ever. I was just like, what am I watching? Just turned on TV and there's just two people in a hot tub on microphones. I'm like, this is bizarre. Alright. 

Speaker 2 (31:30):
This is our goose for sure. Yeah, 

Speaker 1 (31:31):
He is kind of a goose or is he more of a 

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Wells? Yeah, 

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Like a kind of prankster 

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Actually. Funny, funny. 

Speaker 1 (31:41):
But not also, that's the thing, like Wells is funny. Doesn't win this show either you 

Speaker 2 (31:47):
No, it doesn't. It really doesn't. It might get you back on the other. 

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Makes you a bartender. Sub shows on an un, a spinoff franchise. Like Wells Funny Doesn't win it. And finally, our last bachelor here is LAIs, who's 25 and from Denmark. This is S 

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Catch. 

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, we're looking at the painting is what have we called it now? Ophelia and Laies sometimes it's called Act four scene five. So I just have to check the labels to know where we're at at time. So yes, Ophelia and Laertes here from Hamlet. I forgot I had written this. This is so bizarre. Laertes leads a charmed life. His successful father is an advisor for the King of Denmark, and he feels blessed to have such a loving, happy Sister Ophelia. Nothing can get this guy down with such a positive outlook on life. It's clear he's a front runner for The Bachelor. I guess I was just really amused, but pretending that everything's great. 

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Right's just amazing. 

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Everything's actually Ham 

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Going. Hamlet's such a, yeah, 

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Everything's actually about to just go very, very badly. I guess in my version of this, this is all before, 

Speaker 2 (33:06):
This is pre Hamlet laity. Pre 

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Hamlet laity before anything has happened. I mean, which makes sense because he wouldn't survive even to get on The Bachelor. 

Speaker 2 (33:16):
No, he wouldn't. 

Speaker 1 (33:17):
So it has to be before the events of Hamlet. 

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah. 

Speaker 1 (33:21):
So Lat, 

Speaker 2 (33:22):
He's got money. 

Speaker 1 (33:24):
He does have money 

Speaker 2 (33:26):
To be a rich 

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Also, I feel like I've never really looked at this, but 

Speaker 2 (33:30):
He's like, he's very good looking. He is. I know 

Speaker 1 (33:33):
The hottest guy in this. 

Speaker 2 (33:36):
He's like 2019 hot. He totally is the rest of the guys powdered wigs and whatnot. But he looks like he smells good out of all of them. I think you're right. I've never looked at it this way. I have not 

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Either. I mean, that's what I'm saying. I really do think it's a legit way to look at the art is as bachelor contestants now I'm just like, 

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, he's got a nice, really modern haircut. Yeah. 

Speaker 1 (34:05):
I mean I almost say he's not going to win it because he's the next bachelor. Right? 

Speaker 2 (34:10):
He's going to come in second. He's 

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Coming in second or 

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Third 

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Because no, 

Speaker 2 (34:14):
You have to come in fourth. Right, because you can't 

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Fourth or third is 

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Ideal. Third is the sweet spot, 

Speaker 1 (34:19):
But fourth is better because then you don't do fantasy suite and it's not weird. 

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, they don't want to tarnish you. 

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah. Sly you all right? 

Speaker 2 (34:29):
I knew this would get weird. 

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Well, yeah, 

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Looking 

Speaker 1 (34:34):
At her boys here, who do you think? 

Speaker 2 (34:37):
I think Laer Tease is our favorite, right? Yeah. I think he's a little out of her league maybe, but it's true. But she is all powerful. That's 

Speaker 1 (34:47):
True. Yeah. It's a different type of bachelorette this 

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Season. 

Speaker 1 (34:52):
But yeah, I think he's definitely the clear winner. So yeah, typically we start in America and then go international, but since we've started in I guess Greece with a Tropos and have been more European-centric now for this version of The Bachelorette, it's going to be exotic to go to America. So that's where we're going next for our group dates. So we are in America now and our first bachelor, I mean technically is not a bachelor. 

Speaker 2 (35:36):
We're going to get into that. 

Speaker 1 (35:37):
I mean, 

Speaker 2 (35:38):
She's right next to him. She's 

Speaker 1 (35:39):
There. So I guess we should address that. In reality, he is not a bachelor. He is happily married, but maybe that would be something that would probably come out later 

Speaker 2 (35:49):
In 

Speaker 1 (35:49):
The show. Halfway Marty would show 

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Up and she's kind of terrifying looking too. I would not want to date her husband, I don't think. 

Speaker 1 (35:56):
If this was the Bachelor, she would show up when they were on some trip to 

Speaker 2 (36:01):
In 

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Jamaica, and then she would come 

Speaker 2 (36:04):
And they'd let her just be on the show from then on 

Speaker 1 (36:06):
A contestant screaming at him. So anyway, so our first contestant, this is a painting of Thomas Green by John Singleton Copley. But I think he would just go as Tom on the show. Tom doesn't like to share, so he hates being on these group dates. He's a successful businessman and he's ready to show the bachelorette the finer things in life. And while he may be living in America, his loyalty is still with England as evidenced by the flag flying on his ship. Will the Bachelorette share his traditional views or will she value independence? 

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, I mean Tom's showing off everything he knows in his painting, which is exciting. He's laying all the cards out there, I would say. 

Speaker 1 (36:57):
He's like, I can read and write 

Speaker 2 (36:59):
And I have a wife sitting next to me and I own a boat, which the boat, that's a big plus for me. A boat owner. 

Speaker 1 (37:08):
I like. That's true. Weekend getaways. Look at this. But 

Speaker 2 (37:13):
The whole colonialist thing, or what are they called? Loyalists? 

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, 

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, that's a turnoff. I think 

Speaker 1 (37:20):
A Tory. 

Speaker 2 (37:21):
A Tory. 

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Is that a thing? 

Speaker 2 (37:23):
That's a party in England, right? They're like conservatives. 

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, 

Speaker 2 (37:27):
But 

Speaker 1 (37:28):
I feel like, 

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Is that what they were called? I 

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Feel like in America they would call the loyalist toys. He 

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Still a powder on his shoulders too. I never noticed that. That's a nice detail, isn't it, in the painting, but it kind of makes him look a little sloppy. Sloppy. 

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Not enough attention to details. 

Speaker 2 (37:43):
He showed up for this portrait that probably cost him 

Speaker 1 (37:46):
A pretty penny. 

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, several barrels of tea 

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Also. I've always felt like his hands are weirdly 

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Small. They're very weird. Very weird. 

Speaker 1 (37:55):
If 

Speaker 2 (37:55):
You think 

Speaker 1 (37:55):
About, if were to put that hand on top of that face, it looks weirdly 

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Small. It's off. It's very off. It's in a weird position as 

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Well. Let's pretend that's not Copley's fault and that Tom just has weird hands and that's a mark against him. 

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Don't you think portraits are more friendly than generally? Yes. In reality. Yeah. The paintings of the Habsburgs, you did not want to see what they looked like in real life. 

Speaker 1 (38:23):
So our next contestant is Ben. 

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Ben is 

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Him. Ben is 82 from Philadelphia. 

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Ben's already a successful social media star before coming on this show. 

Speaker 1 (38:36):
He was pretty well known. His occupation is founding father 

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Influencer. 

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yes, influencer. We are speaking of Ben Franklin. Of course, you might not expect a plump elderly guy with a bad case of gout to be such a lethario, but Ben plays the field wherever his international career takes him. This globe. Trotter had his fair share of ladies and paid their fair as well. He may be clever, but will the Bachelorette tolerate his alley cat ways and comments and as in the dark, all cats are gray. The pleasure of corporeal enjoyment with an old woman is at least equal and frequently superior. Wait, did he really say that? He really did say 

Speaker 2 (39:21):
That. You're lying. 

Speaker 1 (39:22):
That is 100%. So 

Speaker 2 (39:23):
He likes older women. 

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yes. 

Speaker 2 (39:26):
And cats. 

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Well, he's saying, and as in the dark, all cats are gray. 

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Oh. It doesn't 

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Matter what you look like when the lights are off it. 

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Love it. Okay. This 

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Is his clever way of 

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Dirty old man. 

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, that's a direct quote. I 

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Mean, big fan. He's a jet setter. 

Speaker 1 (39:42):
I know. 

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Smart. 

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah. 

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Invented electricity. I think 

Speaker 1 (39:48):
He's up there in stature to live with someone like an tropos. I don't feel like he's going to be trampled by her. 

Speaker 2 (39:55):
No, no. 

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Our next contestant is Joseph 26 from Boston. And he is, so this is really Reverend Joseph Stevens Buckminster painted by Gilbert Stewart, and he is a reverend. So the young reverend is a charismatic speaker who can woo a congregation, but has yet to find that special lady in his life. Will the Bachelorette mind always being the third wheel between Joseph and the Lord? Or will she cherish her new life as a minister's wife? So 

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, I can't really see that for a tropo. 

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah, I mean, I think he would have a problem that she's from a different religion of a universe. She's from a different cinematic universe than the one he believes in. So he's more of a DC band. Marvel in dc He's like Marvel. Yeah, 

Speaker 2 (40:49):
He did go to college Harvard at 13, which is pretty impressive. 

Speaker 1 (40:53):
That is impressive. I mean, he's got a good, but I mean he's probably, I would have to think he's the Colton of the season that he's probably a virgin, right? 

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah. I mean it's even allowed to get married. 

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, I think so. 

Speaker 2 (41:05):
He's not Catholic, right? He's not Catholic. I don't. Just a reverend. 

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah. Does it say what denomination? 

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Unitarian actually, so 

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Oh, they do pretty liberal. They do 

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Whatever they want. Yeah. 

Speaker 1 (41:19):
We apologize to all Unitarians 

Speaker 2 (41:20):
For all the virgins out there 

Speaker 1 (41:22):
And the virgins. Yes. I'm sorry if you're offended by this kind of talk. I really don't recommend watching the season of The Bachelor also because it is 

Speaker 2 (41:31):
90% of the conversation 

Speaker 1 (41:33):
To an annoying. It's 

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Too much. 

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Too much to an annoying degree. So our final contestant is George 67 from Washington DC George, was 

Speaker 2 (41:46):
It called that when he was born there? 

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Wait, Washington? Well, he's not born there. He's 

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Just 

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Living there. 

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Oh, I see. 

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Usually they don't say on the Bachelor where you were born, but your current city. 

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Right, 

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Right. Got 

Speaker 2 (42:02):
It. 

Speaker 1 (42:04):
George was the first man out of the limo on the opening night of The Bachelorette. And everyone knows that this is a very special spot, an all around good guy. He has become something of a fan favorite for being both intelligent, kind and humble. This guy is definitely going to go far, but will he get the final Rose or is he faded to become the next Bachelor? 

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Kind 

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Of like Laertes, 

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Some heavy hitters in this gallery. 

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Yeah, there are. I mean, we have George Washington and Franklin. 

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Franklin. 

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Yeah. 

Speaker 2 (42:35):
I don't know if either of these men would be comfortable sharing the spotlight though. 

Speaker 1 (42:40):
That's true. I guess I'm leaning towards Ben in this 

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Way. Yeah, I would say Ben too, 

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Just because he literally, 

Speaker 2 (42:46):
I mean, 

Speaker 1 (42:47):
It's written for a tropos 

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Basically. I know. I know. 

Speaker 1 (42:51):
It's like if there's anyone who's not going to have issue with her age, 

Speaker 2 (42:55):
It's 

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Right there. They seem like a match made in heaven. They really 

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Do. 

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Let's go to the Fantasy suite. Okay. All right, Chelsea. Well, this is our final destination. 

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Again, 

Speaker 1 (43:19):
We're playing a truncated version. This is the home version of The Bachelor, like the consolation prize. When you're on a game show and you don't win and you get the home version, the losers on Double Dare got the home version of Double Dare. Did they? I feel like that happened. 

Speaker 2 (43:33):
How do you do a home version of Double Dare? 

Speaker 1 (43:35):
I dunno. It's Jeopardy. So we're at the Fantasy Suite, which is actually the bedroom suite by Mitchell and Ellsburg Furniture Company here in Cincinnati, Ohio from 1880. This very Japanese motif design here. We're here because we've got three men, three 

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Boys, 

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Three men go into the fantasy suite, and so I'm going to lay 'em out here. 

Speaker 2 (44:01):
We have Ben. 

Speaker 1 (44:02):
We've got Ben who won last time. We've got ties who won before that, and then the Mystery man before that. So out of these three, who do we think a tropos is going to pick? 

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Well to just weeded them out, I guess. I think the mystery man ends up being too closed off. He doesn't open up, which is a big plot point's 

Speaker 1 (44:25):
True in our 

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Show when 

Speaker 1 (44:26):
You want to get to know them, and it's just like 

Speaker 2 (44:28):
His name. It's 

Speaker 1 (44:29):
All surface. And we never learn any more about him, who he is 

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Or 

Speaker 1 (44:34):
We never learned it. Yeah, his 

Speaker 2 (44:35):
First name is 

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Great. We don't even scratch the surface with him. 

Speaker 2 (44:41):
No, 

Speaker 1 (44:41):
He's so walled off. 

Speaker 2 (44:43):
No, he's going home this round. 

Speaker 1 (44:45):
So now it's down to Ben and Lair. He's our final two. It's the big big night we've got somebody's going to be standing out there waiting and somebody is going to be standing at High Noon and they should know. You can see, if you look down on the Bachelor and you see your shadow directly below you, you are not winning because they time 

Speaker 2 (45:08):
That the sun is beating on you. 

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yeah. They time that so that they get that rose and proposal at Sunset. So I always look at the shadows 

Speaker 2 (45:17):
When people 

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Are getting 

Speaker 2 (45:17):
At the end, the final thing. Yeah, the final too. 

Speaker 1 (45:19):
I always look at the ground and I'm like, who's got a long shadow? Who doesn't? 

Speaker 2 (45:26):
We watch the show way too much. Way too much. 

Speaker 1 (45:30):
So Laies Ben, who's out there, who's going to be waiting, sadly, waiting for that Rose. 

Speaker 2 (45:36):
So we have Young Hunk, God is, and then Ben Franklin. 

Speaker 1 (45:40):
That's a real weird mix, huh? They're a little closer in age generally. Typically, yeah. In appearance. 

Speaker 2 (45:48):
But then the Bachelorette is typically not 3 billion, 

Speaker 1 (45:51):
3.3 billion years old. That's true. 

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Very true. I think you still like Ben, don't you? 

Speaker 1 (45:57):
I think Ben is the winner. 

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah, I do too. I mean, again, you can't have a quote about your admiration for elderly women and not come out on top. 

Speaker 1 (46:10):
That's true. And honestly, if we're playing this like we were producing this show, let's be real. We're keeping Laies for next season. He is the next bachelor because you can build a show around that guy. 

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Yeah, for sure. 

Speaker 1 (46:28):
But Ben, 

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Right, right. 

Speaker 1 (46:32):
He's perfectly suited for a Tropo, but he is not Bachelor material. 

Speaker 2 (46:36):
No, he's not. He's not going to be on The Bachelor for sure. You can't 

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Have anyone too quirky. 

Speaker 2 (46:41):
No. They 

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Kind of have to be a blank slate. 

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, exactly. For us to project all of our hopes and dreams on. 

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Exactly. So ties, you're a real tabular rasa. You're going on to be the Bachelor, Ben, congratulations. You get down on one knee, propose to a Tropo. Even though I think you already had a wife. I'm sure. Probably 

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Did he? I feel like he was single. I don't know. 

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Let's look it up. Let's look. A pocket computer can tell us right now. Wouldn't it be great if I look up this Benjamin Franklin wife? It Atropa. Let's 

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Just change it. Wikipedia. 

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Hey, his real life wife was named Deborah Reed. 

Speaker 2 (47:20):
She kept her maiden name Modern lady. No, 

Speaker 1 (47:24):
She was the Deborah Reed Franklin 

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Common law spouse. Oh, Shing up. Yeah. I'm not surprised by that actually. 

Speaker 1 (47:34):
I know he is. What we've learned about, 

Speaker 2 (47:36):
He's a modern man. 

Speaker 1 (47:37):
What we've learned about Ben today, 

Speaker 2 (47:39):
You think the three of them could be in a relationship? A Throuple. 

Speaker 1 (47:44):
A Tropo, Debra and Ben. Yeah, maybe. 

Speaker 2 (47:48):
I imagine you need a break from a Tropos every once in a while. 

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah, probably. Well, thank you Chelsea, so much for joining me today. 

Speaker 2 (47:56):
You are 

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Welcome to play a museum Bachelorette. 

Speaker 2 (47:58):
This was so much fun. Thank you for taking me on this journey, this journey of love. 

Speaker 1 (48:07):
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