Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming up on Art Palace, Sarah wants to do her best. Yvette impression 

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Now? Yes, maybe I don't. 

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Welcome to Art Palace, produced by Cincinnati Art Museum. This is your host, Russell iig. Here at the Art Palace, we meet cool people and then talk to them about art. Today's cool people are Sarah Burke Hoffer, coordinator of interpretive programming, and Kristen Vincenti, assistant to the director. Today we are doing an episode inspired by the movie Clue because Mount Adams cinema in the city will be showing the film on July 27th at season. Good Pavilion right across the street from us. The art museum is open until 8:00 PM that night. So stop by Before the show, not only can you check out the pieces we discuss, but Sarah has put together a special clue scavenger hunt that will be available that evening at the front desk. It's a really cool way to see the collection while actually solving a mystery using deductive reasoning. 

Speaker 2 (01:26):
The devil's number is six, but the Devil's hour is three. I don't know. I don't make these rules. The rules. 

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Look, I did not bring you here to discuss witchcraft. Hocus pocus Shark. 

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I think we've taken a whole turn and 

Speaker 1 (01:40):
We need to go with it. We're going. We are here to discuss Clue. 

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Okay. Pocus. POCUS is happening. All right. 

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay, we here? Okay, 

Speaker 3 (01:46):
I'm ready to discuss Clue, 

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Find Clueing. We're clueing. 

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Alright. 

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Okay. Let's solve a 

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Mystery. 

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yes, we do have a mystery today to solve because we are going to go on a tour of the museum by choosing our painting, kind of like how you choose your criminals and weapons and scene of the crime in Clue. So I have the confidential envelopes here and I figure there's three of us, three envelopes. We can each take a pick and then we will have to walk to wherever we're going. So, 

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Okay. Are we trying to figure out a murderer? Are we trying to solve a crime? 

Speaker 1 (02:25):
It works basically like Clue does where there is no rhyme or reason to it other than just randomness. Have I voiced my problems with the board game Clue yet? I think you 

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Need to talk about it. This is we can go hocus pocus, but we cannot go problems with clue 

Speaker 1 (02:41):
On this block. I have a lot of problems with clue. Well I think logically we should probably start with the crime scene. I 

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Think that's fair. 

Speaker 1 (02:48):
If you 

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Can't find a body without a crime scene. 

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Right. Okay. Already we'll get into my problems with the board game. Clue. Why do we have to figure out where the body is? How about why is that a, we have to figure out shouldn't it be where the body is? 

Speaker 2 (03:02):
But in the 

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Movie, the body moves around is found in several places. 

Speaker 1 (03:06):
That's true because 

Speaker 3 (03:07):
He's not technically dead. 

Speaker 1 (03:08):
That's true. You could kill somebody in one place, move their body 

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Somewhere else, which I feel like is one of the more complex, uncommon, complex challenges that the director had. He's probably asking himself that same question. Why don't we know where the body is? Of course we know where the body 

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Is, right? Yeah. He's dead in the ballroom but 

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yet he's not. 

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Okay, you got me there. Alright, 

Speaker 2 (03:28):
And moving on. I'm 

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Just offending clue. 

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Okay. Kristen, do you want to do the honors of drawing our crime scene? 

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Because 

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Right here, 

Speaker 2 (03:37):
For those of you listening, I'm right next to Russell. Am I picking out, does it matter what I pick out? 

Speaker 1 (03:40):
No, that's why it's Chance. So we're going to figure it out 

Speaker 3 (03:44):
And you're not going to tell us, right? 

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I got kitchen. 

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Dun dun. Okay. Alright. 

Speaker 2 (03:50):
So somebody going to be stabbed in an old school fridge, like in the movie? Yes. The Cook 

Speaker 1 (03:55):
To the Kitchen 

Speaker 2 (03:56):
To Monkey Brains. 

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Maybe 

Speaker 1 (04:12):
A zoo 

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Like Pal 

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Is of 

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I want you all to know that I've been taking Duolingo French every night. 

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah. 

Speaker 2 (04:21):
And I have learned nothing 

Speaker 3 (04:22):
And Pap 

Speaker 1 (04:23):
To 

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Say Purple monkey. 

Speaker 2 (04:24):
No, I know. Bread wasn't it Pan right. 

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Huh? 

Speaker 2 (04:28):
And then Pap 

Speaker 3 (04:28):
All need know how Butterfly say is pan chola and you're set. 

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah. You can survive. Just survive. 

Speaker 3 (04:34):
That's you need on a and all need. You're like, okay. 

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Well all of this is to say we are standing in front of Paulison still Life bread and eggs. I don't know if we've said that yet in English 

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yet, 

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Have we? No. 

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I like, huh? 

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I apologize to anyone. Oh, sorry, go ahead. I talked to, 

Speaker 1 (04:50):
And Sarah wants to do her best Yvette impression 

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Now. Yes. Maybe. I don't understand, 

Speaker 1 (04:58):
But where is Mr. Buddy? That's pretty good. 

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Just imagine boob streaking, 

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Just boobs. 

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Lots of 

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Boobs. 

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah. Yeah. But you know what? I remember, so the three of us watched Clue in preparation for this because that's how we 

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Very official. 

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah. Look, we do our homework when it involves watching eighties movies 

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Hashtag dream job. 

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Right. But I remember we were sort of laughing at the actress, but then it turns out she's is supposed to be putting on the accent in the movie. 

Speaker 3 (05:31):
That's true. Yeah. 

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I 

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Was making fun of her not having a good accent, 

Speaker 1 (05:37):
But then it turns out that she is putting on 

Speaker 3 (05:40):
That accent. She's fake French. 

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, she is fake French. So sorry. Whoever plays Yvette, I 

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Forget how is it was Yvette. 

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yvette 

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Was one of Ms. Scarlet's Women of the Night. Right? Isn't that how it worked out? 

Speaker 1 (05:51):
I think in one version of the story, maybe in all of them because so when we watched it, we had only did one ending. We let the D V D choose it randomly for us. So I think in the version we watched, that was the case that she was working for Ms. Scarlet? 

Speaker 2 (06:07):
No, I don't think she was working for Ms. Scarlet. She was Ms. Was that how? I don't remember Mistress. 

Speaker 1 (06:12):
No, I think she was 

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Mistress. Was it? 

Speaker 1 (06:14):
See, I think she's Well okay. In one version she is definitely, what did you say, lady? Woman of 

Speaker 2 (06:19):
The Night. Of the 

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Lady of the Night. That's very, very tactful way of putting it. One of for Ms. Scarlet's brothel. 

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yes, 

Speaker 1 (06:28):
I guess so. That's It's a 

Speaker 2 (06:31):
House of Ill service 

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Russell. No, 

Speaker 2 (06:32):
It's a house of, ill repeat. Everybody knows we're going to go straight Shakespearean up 

Speaker 3 (06:38):
And her. We're trying to be pc. 

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Let's really split hairs over this. This is the important incident. This 

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Is how it goes. 

Speaker 1 (06:45):
But anyway, so we actually had quite a few pieces to pick for the kitchen, but I picked this one here. Just it seemed a little informal. Not so much like a dining room. You wouldn't just see a bunch of bread and eggs laying around. I don't know. What do you think? 

Speaker 3 (07:05):
I hate it. Just kidding. I'm just kidding. 

Speaker 1 (07:11):
You're just kidding. I bet some people hate it though. 

Speaker 3 (07:14):
I know. I really think that it's funny and challenging to talk about why you hate art and I think that still lifes are honestly my least favorite kind of art, but I totally understand their merit and their purpose in an artist's life. I mean, obviously poor starving artists don't have a lot of free models around 

Speaker 1 (07:36):
To 

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Constantly draw or create amazing compositions with, so they got to practice with something. 

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, it's an easy set. Grab some 

Speaker 3 (07:46):
And every French person has a baguette. 

Speaker 1 (07:49):
That's true. Or two. Or two or two. 

Speaker 2 (07:51):
In the case of this 

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Baby or kid, this is a little wasteful. I hope that it was for his whole family because you know what? Those baguettes, they'll go bad in a day. 

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Oh, that's true. 

Speaker 3 (07:58):
You know that if they're really good, they will not be good tomorrow. 

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Lesson learned on baguettes. I also heard that in those times because people would ride bikes to go get them, that everybody wanted the ends instead of the middle because people put 'em under their armpits and you don't want the sweaty armpit. Middle 

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Bags have existed for hundreds of years. 

Speaker 1 (08:18):
That sounds like an urban legend. Kristen. 

Speaker 2 (08:21):
I mean, she's actually lived in Paris. I have not. 

Speaker 3 (08:24):
I mean, have I seen people with baguettes under their arms? Sure. Sure. 

Speaker 1 (08:29):
It's happened, 

Speaker 2 (08:30):
But there were bags involved. 

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Bags are a thing. 

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Bags. 

Speaker 1 (08:33):
I like that. There's two of everything. You have two loaves of bread, two eggs. 

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Is this a glass as well? Is that more, it 

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Almost looks like a little pitcher. 

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, I think it's like a pitcher 

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Or it's holding milk or something. Or 

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Almost looks like a stein. We'll say two vessels, but 

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I know, yeah, there are two vessels, but there's a handle which makes you believe that there's milk or something like that in there, right? 

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah. 

Speaker 2 (08:56):
There's not two knives though. Two 

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Murderous 

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Knives. Okay. 

Speaker 1 (08:59):
That's true. This could have been our weapon stop. 

Speaker 2 (09:01):
This could have been the weapon. 

Speaker 3 (09:03):
If you could kill someone with a butter knife, I've got to applaud you. 

Speaker 1 (09:06):
That's 

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Dedication. 

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah. This is not the most threatening knife 

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Also, I mean how long would that take? I think, I 

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Mean what year was this painted? 1865. Who knows? Butter knife back then could have been a little sharper, multipurpose. 

Speaker 1 (09:18):
At least it still does have a rounded in though. 

Speaker 3 (09:19):
That looks plastic to me. 

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I'm guessing it's not plastic. In 1865. 

Speaker 2 (09:24):
This is a picnic. This is a plastic picnic. He stopped at Walmart, picked up one of those spoons 

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Plus on. Definitely 

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Just got back 

Speaker 3 (09:32):
From Walmart. 

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, he did. He was wheeling and dealing, 

Speaker 1 (09:35):
But it doesn't, you know what though? I actually had the same thought. It kind of looks like a plastic knife. 

Speaker 2 (09:39):
It really does. 

Speaker 1 (09:40):
I think the 

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Handle 

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Is black and then you're getting it in such low light that it's just reflecting black back. 

Speaker 2 (09:48):
That's the other thing that's bothering me with this is that it's completely black and the table is very difficult to discern from everything else. And then the sheet or the, I don't know, the napkin or the tablecloth because you can't really discern where the table is. The folding is real weird down here by the cup. What's going on with this little fold? It's weird. This is obviously the edge of the table, but none of my fabrics do that. 

Speaker 3 (10:14):
He's taking some artistic liberties. 

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Everything else is very serious. 

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Well, and that's actually what one of the things Cezanne is known for is for kind of messing with that sense of three-dimensional space and that beginning of flattening out of space that becomes a hallmark of modernism. And 

Speaker 3 (10:31):
This is before he really experiments with the kind of pixels that he translates into later. But he does kind of make interesting perspective changes even in something as early as this. Hey, 

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Do you know what Pixel stands for? I just learned this the other day. 

Speaker 3 (10:49):
No, I have no idea. 

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Educate us. 

Speaker 1 (10:51):
It's kind of funny because you say pixel and you think it almost sounds like, well, it's not really a pixel, but in a way it is. 

Speaker 3 (10:57):
It was like the first pixel in my mind. 

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Well, it totally works because Pixel actually just stands for picture element. 

Speaker 3 (11:05):
No. 

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yep. That's it. 

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Picture what? 

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I'm kind of disappointed. I thought it was going to be a crazy, 

Speaker 2 (11:09):
You all are currently listening to our minds blowing. 

Speaker 3 (11:12):
I thought 

Speaker 1 (11:13):
That was, or Sarah's just kind of being Meh. 

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Your mind blowing. She's me about these paintings disappointed. She's meh about, I don't 

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Know if I'm disappointed. I just thought that it was going to be some really 

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Interesting profound 

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Acronym, 

Speaker 1 (11:24):
But I mean it's kind of interesting though. It doesn't actually have anything to do with computers in the way the actual meaning of the word. So you really could apply it to almost anything that is a picture made up of little elements 

Speaker 3 (11:36):
That becomes 

Speaker 1 (11:36):
A pixel. Totally. 

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I mean, and Cezanne's brand of post impressionism is totally along that same vein of pixels and I always talk about that. I think that that's really cool to think about 

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Pre-computer 

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Pixels. I 

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Think the way noticing the table is so dark 

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Is 

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Another way he's able to just focus on these things as shapes 

Speaker 2 (11:59):
More 

Speaker 1 (12:00):
And to kind of mess with that sense of space a little bit so that it does have almost a feeling of just floating bread and eggs and onions. 

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah. I mean you can kind of tell that there's a table there just because of raised paint. You know what I mean? You can tell that there is a brushstroke that's different from the background, but it's very dark 

Speaker 1 (12:18):
And are Yeah, that's true. The highlights in it are almost just, it's hard to see. They look like reflections on the table, but they are actually just reflections on the actual paint is really cool. And that's one of those things that becomes one of those moments where that would not translate quite so well in a book. That's one of those things, you have to be here to see the difference in the paint to get a sense of that. See, 

Speaker 2 (12:43):
But it's just so funny to me because the table is so, I don't know, just kind of part of the background and yet the cup is so realistic, the reflection of it on itself and the light hitting it. You know what I mean? 

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah. 

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Not the milk one, the glass one. 

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah. Well, and I think that's a sign that a lot of times these artists are messing with that stuff, not because they don't know how to do it, 

Speaker 2 (13:11):
But 

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Because they want to do it and Okay. 

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Artistic license. 

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Right. He knows how to actually make a table look like it sits in space, but he's choosing not to or a desired effect. 

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Other noted fact for clue or murder or paintings in general, always sign your painting with your name in the year you painted it. Very helpful. 

Speaker 1 (13:31):
That's very right there. Right there. And 

Speaker 2 (13:33):
If you're going to murder someone, leave a clue with your name the time you did it. 

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Although helpful. I would have to say Cezanne, you could have worked on that five a little bit. 

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, it's very, I 

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Don't know if I would've necessarily known. 

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I'm really digging a Z though. That Z is on point. 

Speaker 1 (13:46):
It is a good Z. 

Speaker 2 (13:47):
It is a solid Z. Do 

Speaker 1 (13:48):
You guys have any, oh, sorry. Go ahead. 

Speaker 3 (13:49):
That's okay. Bringing it back to the movie. I was kind of just thinking about what were they eating? There was the part in the movie where they were like, 

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Monkey's brains, 

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Monkey brains. Yes. They were monkey brains. Monkey 

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Brains. And they were like, oh, Ms. Peacock. I know this is your favorite. I 

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Think it was Ms. White 

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Soup. 

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Ms. White Soup. Yeah. 

Speaker 1 (14:09):
No, no. It is Ms. Peacock's. It is Ms. 

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Peacock's peacocks. I'm sorry. I'm getting them 

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Confused. Yeah. Ms. Peacock's, the maid, the 

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Senator's wife. 

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah. The cook is also the cook for Ms. Peacock. 

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Right. 

Speaker 1 (14:20):
So she's one of my favorite recipes. 

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Monkey's brains. 

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Monkey's brains. Monkeys 

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Brains. Because they all got served something different. 

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Can you legally eat that? 

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Probably not. 

Speaker 2 (14:31):
They did say, I forget what they specifically called it. Only 

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Urine in the Temple of Doom. 

Speaker 2 (14:35):
No, they did specifically say that it was like a specific culture's recipe. I forget. What did they say? It was like, 

Speaker 1 (14:41):
I don't know. I did not make a note about that. It 

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Was Cantonese or something. I don't know. 

Speaker 1 (14:45):
That sounds right. 

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Really? 

Speaker 1 (14:47):
I want to say you're right. Now I'm going to have to research it. 

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Hold on. 

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I feel like I can hear pocket 

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Computer. 

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I feel like I can hear Tim Curry saying the Cantonese something cuisine while popular in Cantonese cuisine or something like that. 

Speaker 2 (15:02):
That's a very good Tim Curry impression. 

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Not my best, 

Speaker 2 (15:04):
No. 

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I don't know if I do others, but I'm like, okay, now here he is. And home alone. Two. Yes. 

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Now 

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Rocky Horror. 

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Rocky Horror. I could probably do that better. 

Speaker 3 (15:15):
That seems more Exactly. Can 

Speaker 2 (15:16):
I ask something awful. Is Tim Curry still alive? Is he still living? Yeah. Is he? Yeah, he's alive. I know. He had a stroke, didn't he? 

Speaker 1 (15:21):
I think he did. Boy, this is a fun podcast full of, 

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Sorry, I'm just bringing it down. Bringing it way down. 

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Just like, I don't know, full of, is it the Cantonese? I don't know. We looked alive. I dunno. What a fun time 

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Around monkey brain soup. This is the weirdest search. Cantonese. I was right. Cantonese 

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Cuisine 

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Dinging, ding, ding, ding, ding. And monkey's brains though, popular in Cantonese cuisine are not often to be found in Washington dc 

Speaker 1 (15:50):
There we go. 

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Perfectly. 

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yes. Nice. 

Speaker 3 (15:54):
So the kitchen is also where there's a secret passageway, right? 

Speaker 1 (15:57):
There is a secret passageways 

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Corner square. Right. 

Speaker 1 (16:00):
I can't remember which room it goes to in the movie, but that's my favorite part in the movie is when Tim Curry is doing all of the explaining what actually happened and when he falls out of the freezer, and then he's pretending to be the body, and then he from the ground continues his explanation. He's like now. And that just is the funniest moment in that movie to me, is Tim Curry on the ground explaining everything as if it's totally normal. 

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Oh, Tim Curry, you line 

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Up our lives. He's a national treasure, 

Speaker 1 (16:38):
But not our nation. 

Speaker 2 (16:39):
No, 

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Unfortunately we don't get to claim him 

Speaker 3 (16:43):
An international treasure. 

Speaker 1 (16:45):
That's true. He's everybody's gift. Let's move on. Let's move on. Let's figure 

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Out, 

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I think what would be next would make sense is we'll figure out our murder weapon. 

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Okay, Sarah? 

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Sure. 

Speaker 2 (17:02):
The lead. 

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Oh, this is a good one. 

Speaker 2 (17:18):
We're back. 

Speaker 1 (17:19):
We're back. And we are in the special exhibit Tiffany Glass painting with color 

Speaker 2 (17:26):
And light. Very good. 

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Thank you. 

Speaker 2 (17:29):
That was very good. 

Speaker 1 (17:31):
We are looking at the, I like the labeled description here as educational model demonstrating the process of making a leaded glass shade with an asterisk. Yes. Which, yeah, then to read the asterisk just takes you down to the glass, mold patterns, copper foil and solder. How do you guys say that 

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Word by 

Speaker 1 (17:54):
The way? 

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Solder. 

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Solder. 

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Solder. 

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Solder. Yeah. I feel like I would say solder, but then I'm like, every time I read it, I'm like, but there's an L. I know 

Speaker 3 (18:01):
It's 

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Maybe it's like Boer. It's 

Speaker 3 (18:03):
With two dss. Sometimes 

Speaker 2 (18:04):
You have, 

Speaker 1 (18:05):
I say solder, sometimes it's solder. I don't know. 

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I've always said solder. 

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah. I feel like if I'm being my true Kentucky self, I would say solder, 

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Solder solder 

Speaker 2 (18:14):
French alternative Yvette. 

Speaker 1 (18:18):
But yeah. Oh. Anyway, the footnote is that these are reproductions and similar to the ones that would be used at Tiffany. 

Speaker 2 (18:26):
So essentially they're trying to encourage me to not break the glass and steal these pretty much. 

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Well, I don't know if that was the intention, Kristen. I don't know if you're such a klepto that you have to be told things are inauthentic. 

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Well, you have to edit this out, but the truth of the matter is, if I was going to break something and take it, just take all the stuff that's not behind the glass. 

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah. Also, yeah, 

Speaker 2 (18:49):
That's actually Tiffany. We know. 

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I don't think this was about theft control. I think it was more just about, 

Speaker 3 (18:57):
There's tiny pieces that also inflict wounds. 

Speaker 1 (19:02):
I think it was just about 

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Authenticity 

Speaker 1 (19:04):
And just letting 

Speaker 2 (19:04):
In case you leave this in here, Amy, I want you to know I'm not going to take this. It's fine. The new gallery will get it all back. It's okay. I promise. 

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Okay, promise. Well, that's very good. Well, anyway, why we're looking at this is because this is literally the only thing I could find for a lead pipe, but it kind of made me laugh because this little strip of lead here would be what would be used in the soldering process that would be melted down. 

Speaker 3 (19:30):
I think you could bludgeon someone with that. I'm sure 

Speaker 2 (19:32):
You could. Oh, we got to move. Those lights are going out. 

Speaker 1 (19:34):
I know. That 

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Made it even creepier. 

Speaker 2 (19:36):
There we go. 

Speaker 3 (19:37):
We go. Nobody's murdered. 

Speaker 1 (19:38):
No, 

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Nobody's murdered. I don't know. Okay. I have a question. Isn't lead or I know gold's very soft isn't lead 

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Soft. It is a malleable metal. 

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Right. So 

Speaker 3 (19:47):
If I touch that, I would be able to get my fingerprint on there. 

Speaker 1 (19:49):
I don't think it's that soft, but 

Speaker 3 (19:51):
I would be able to mold it a 

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Bit. Yeah, you can kind of hammer it easily and stuff. I mean it is pretty soft. I don't know. You're not supposed to really play with lead. 

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Right. 

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Touched 

Speaker 2 (20:01):
It kind of frowned upon. 

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah. I mean like 

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Mercury. 

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah. I would say this lead here, I don't know if hitting anyone with it would do too much damage to them, but maybe. 

Speaker 2 (20:10):
But a lead pipe in the movie. 

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Well, yeah, it is heavy. So it is dangerous in that way. But I'm thinking you might be able to almost poison someone better with that than maybe. Yeah, 

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Just shove it down their throat or 

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Give them lead poisoning. That would 

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Be the best way to kill poison somebody. Yeah, lead poisoning. And they would probably just choke. So, 

Speaker 2 (20:28):
But I feel like isn't lead, even though lead is malleable, I mean it's still, obviously it's a metal. It's more malleable when heated or hammered or 

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, exactly. It is still hard and is traditionally been used in plumbing, which is why that PB is for lead in the periodic table. It's like the Latin root word for lead plum 

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Plumbing, 

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Something, I don't know, plum. I don't know. I can't remember all of this. Plum. Yeah, something 

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Plum. It's definitely plum. I think 

Speaker 1 (20:58):
That actually is it? I think that might be the, I think it might word is plum. I want you to 

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Know, I guess Cantonese out of thin air plum is going to be a real 

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Plum is not 

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Plum. Okay. I think this might, 

Speaker 3 (21:10):
That's not Latin guys. 

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Another alternate translations. Plum. 

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Plum. 

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Plum. That's even better than plum. Plum. 

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Plum. 

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Plum. Is 

Speaker 2 (21:22):
That like Latin plum? Is it the plumb? 

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah, it's plumb. 

Speaker 1 (21:27):
I don't know Latin. 

Speaker 3 (21:28):
I dunno how pronou Latin. It's always 

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Well, yeah. I can't remember. Does anyone use the lead pipe in the 

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Movie? Yeah. No, they have the lead. Somebody has a 

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Pipe. 

Speaker 2 (21:37):
I think it gets locked. 

Speaker 1 (21:38):
I think Colonel Mustard does at some point, doesn't he? Or does he have a wrench? I just remember Martin Mall walking with something heavy like that. He hit somebody in the head with. 

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yes. I feel like the pipe is definitely the least useful out of all of the weapons. 

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Well, okay, so in continuing Russell's tirade against the board game, clue, one of my other problems with it is that three of the weapons all essentially do the same thing. The canvas. Is 

Speaker 3 (22:05):
There a knife? There's no knife. Yeah, 

Speaker 1 (22:06):
There is. There's the rope, the dagger or knife? The 

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Dagger. Okay. 

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah. In the UK it's called the Dagger. In the US it's the knife and then the candlestick, the wrench, the lead pipe and the revolver. Yeah. So three of those things are all just bludgeoning weapons. And that always kind of bothers me. Well, 

Speaker 3 (22:30):
You run out of objects 

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Poison. Poison is way more exciting than another bludgeoning tool. True. 

Speaker 3 (22:37):
That's true. 

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Poison would be, I 

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Guess like a taser gun maybe was not, 

Speaker 3 (22:43):
This game was invented way before the 

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Taser. Yeah, it was like the forties. Do you know? So it's originally a British game 

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Called. 

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah. Which bringing it back to Latin is because of, I want to say Ludo is the root of to play. And so that's why it's called Cludo. Alright, well I guess I'll draw the last one, which 

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Go for it. Russ. Shameless plug. Come and see Tiffany Glass. 

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, well, I was excited we got to use this one because 

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, it's a really beautiful show and you won't get lead poisoning. 

Speaker 2 (23:18):
You won't. 

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Or murdered? 

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Or murdered or 

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Murdered probably. Yeah. 

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Probably 

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Make those promising. We can't 

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Really say that, but 

Speaker 3 (23:25):
You won't get lead poisoning from the show. Do want to? 

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Sure. Okay. That 

Speaker 3 (23:31):
It up it. 

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Okay. Oh, professor Plum. All right. So we have found our murderer, and it is Professor Plum as represented by Moi's Max Jacob here in Gallery 2 29. And I was thinking he just kind of looks like a professor Plum to me. 

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yes. 

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah. I really think that he looks like Christopher Lloyd with vacant ties and less crazy hair. 

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, that's true. That's 

Speaker 2 (24:14):
True. 

Speaker 1 (24:14):
He's a little more put together than Christopher Lloyd's. Professor 

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Plum. Although the bacon eyes are kind of not put together. 

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Gives him a little spooky, 

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Spooky 

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Quality, but it does make him a good murderer. Right. Now, you 

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Know what also is perfect with this piece is that Mouli was called by his friend Modi. 

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Modi. 

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Modi. 

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Think he's Italian, right? 

Speaker 3 (24:41):
But he obviously lived in Paris for a lot of years. That makes 

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Sense. 

Speaker 3 (24:45):
And he actually had a pretty terrible life. He was sickly all of his life. Just had the TB and stuff, 

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Had the tb, 

Speaker 2 (24:55):
All the tb. 

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Everybody has the tb. 

Speaker 2 (24:57):
The TB man. 

Speaker 3 (24:59):
But anyway, he was also very drug addicted and things like that. But his group of friends, circle one was Max Jacob, who's depicted here, called him Modi, which is cursed in French. 

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Really? 

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah. Murder most foul. 

Speaker 3 (25:17):
And he was pretty cursed. I mean, when Delani died, his wife actually killed herself when she was pregnant with her child. 

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Oh my gosh. 

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah. He's a pretty grim backstory. 

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah. 

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah. Well, max Jacob, it says here was a poet, painter, writer and critic. So he was not actually a professor, but those are all very scholarly pursuits. Very to 

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Imagine. He's very astute. 

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah. 

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah. 

Speaker 3 (25:43):
He's also very modest from what I've read about him. 

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Max Jacob was so, it's certainly not like the real dog of a Professor Plum as portrayed by Christopher Lloyd. Just real handsy with Ms. Scarlet, if I remember. He's like a total perva in that movie. 

Speaker 3 (26:01):
He was, yeah. And that was his crime, right? 

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah. He got involved with one of his 

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Clients. Yes, you are correct. That's right. 

Speaker 2 (26:08):
And then it ended up that the bellhop girl who got shot was the client that he had had. 

Speaker 1 (26:16):
I've forgotten about that. 

Speaker 3 (26:19):
You Dirty Dog. It 

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Strikes me as a little, that's one of the things that I do think is a little bit odd about, and I mean maybe it's commendable, but the movie definitely does not stick with the stereotypes that the board game establishes for the characters because Mr. Green is always a businessman. And in here he's this wimpy undercover agent who's maybe sometimes gay, depending 

Speaker 2 (26:45):
On the 

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Ending. It might all have been a ruse, which is also weird. And then Professor Plum, who should be kind of a geeky weby type is instead this just pervert, which is odd. Colonel Mustard. I mean, I like Martin Mall, but I don't know if I could really say much about his character. 

Speaker 2 (27:07):
I feel like isn't there a version of the game where Colonel Mustard is, obviously Colonel Lee, but he's all dressed, he's on an African safari. Yes. There's totally, 

Speaker 1 (27:17):
He gets the straight up safari. 

Speaker 2 (27:19):
It's like Jumanji, you know what I mean? It's straight out of Jumanji. I 

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Think he does, I mean, usually he 

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Got a Jumanji remake makeover 

Speaker 1 (27:25):
At the very least. He usually is an older man with white hair, a monocle. He's totally got the classic 

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Colonel look. 

Speaker 1 (27:35):
They play with Mrs. White. And most of the board games is usually the maid. 

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Maid. 

Speaker 1 (27:40):
So here they've, 

Speaker 3 (27:42):
You've added another character to be the game 

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Also, which is strangely con. I love her. Flames. Flames, 

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yes. 

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I love her and everything, but I think it was a weird choice to have her dressed all in black the whole time. They 

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Play with that a little bit too. Yeah. The colors are not always, not everyone's wearing exactly the color you would expect them to because I think Ms. Scarlet is also not Isn't 

Speaker 2 (28:04):
No, she's in green. She's 

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Green. She's 

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Wearing 

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Green too. Which again, okay. 

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Ms. Peacock is wearing feathers though. 

Speaker 1 (28:12):
She is. That's true. But 

Speaker 2 (28:13):
I think she's yellow. I feel like in all the games she's always purple, right? 

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, 

Speaker 1 (28:16):
She's blue. 

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Oh, she's blue. That's right. 

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Purple is 

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Plum. I apologize. 

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah. But that said, I would never trade Madeline Khan in that movie for a million 

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Years. Oh no. Definitely 

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Not. Because she is my favorite person in it and makes me laugh. 

Speaker 2 (28:31):
She's amazing. 

Speaker 1 (28:32):
From the minute her first line in that movie is so good where it is nothing. But he opens the door and she just says, do you know who I am? And I don't know why that makes me laugh so much, but it does. She's so good. 

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Madeline is so amazing. 

Speaker 1 (28:47):
And that scene where she's like her admission where she's just like, and I got 

Speaker 2 (28:52):
So mad. Flames, 

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Flames, 

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Flames, flames. 

Speaker 1 (28:58):
That battle speech. It's 

Speaker 2 (29:00):
So awesome. Oh my God, it's so good. 

Speaker 1 (29:03):
It's just so unusual. The way her cadence to that speech is just so bizarre. It is top notch. 

Speaker 2 (29:12):
She's awesome. 

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah. When I was a kid, I think I was more into Leslie and Warren. She was all snappy 

Speaker 2 (29:18):
And 

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Sarcastic as Ms. Scarlet. But I think now I'm coming around and it's all about Mrs. White for me in this movie. 

Speaker 2 (29:26):
She's hilarious. 

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah. Any other thoughts about the cast of Clue? 

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I mean, Christopher Lloyd as skeevy as he was, I do love Christopher Lloyd, so that was 

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Pretty 

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Fun. Yeah, you do no wrong. 

Speaker 2 (29:37):
And Tim Curry, I mean, 

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, Tim Curry. And like I said, I think Curry shines the most in that last 

Speaker 2 (29:43):
20 

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Minutes where he gets to just run around. 

Speaker 2 (29:45):
But I feel like that's the part that's in all three of them. Right? Because they end it right after he finishes essentially how everyone died. 

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah. I think when we were watching it the last time, you could tell it switches when he shuts off the lights 

Speaker 2 (30:00):
To 

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Imitate the lights going out. And then when it comes back, this is 

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Why doing it. Right. 

Speaker 1 (30:04):
And then when he comes back on is when you cut to the different endings. 

Speaker 2 (30:10):
And I have to admit, the one ending where he dies, it's pretty funny because he gets shot and then just kind of falls into a corner. It's like, we'll, think about that. Yeah. He's the one who did everything. Yeah. And then Mr. Green shoots him and then the F b I comes in. 

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yes. 

Speaker 2 (30:24):
That's the one we watched. 

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah. I think it is. I was about to say, I was like, I'm pretty sure that's the one we watched. That's the one we watched. We watched the longest one. Yeah. Wait, because we watched the ending where everybody is involved. 

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, 

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Because there's one ending where Ms. Peacock's involved one, it's basically Mrs. Peacock does everything. I think 

Speaker 2 (30:49):
There's 

Speaker 1 (30:49):
One where Mrs. Scarlet does is the killer, but I think she has, Yvette is an accomplice. Accomplice. And then in the one we watch, everybody is involved 

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Except for Mr. Green. 

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Except for Mr. Green who is an undercover. 

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yes. Okay. Now 

Speaker 2 (31:03):
It's all the things that Tim Curry says is true about them, but he brought them. Tim Curry brought them all there to get rid of all the witnesses. Yeah. Okay. 

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yes. In that ending, in 

Speaker 2 (31:18):
That ending, 

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Should you choose to believe it? 

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Clearly? I don't believe it. I blocked my memory. I blocked it out of my memory for a reason. And it's because I'm loyal to the Ms. Scarlet ending. 

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Which one is, I think it's the Miss Peacock ending. I was sad we didn't watch it. Where they all sing for She's a jolly good fellow. 

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah. I think that's Mrs. Peacock. 

Speaker 1 (31:40):
That one is so good. Again, because of Madeline Comes singing. Oh my God, that's so awesome. 

Speaker 2 (31:44):
It's so awesome. It's so good. 

Speaker 1 (31:47):
That is so, 

Speaker 2 (31:48):
It's so hilarious. 

Speaker 1 (31:49):
That's that's another really 

Speaker 2 (31:50):
But bad ending. Honestly, though, it is all saved by them singing that. 

Speaker 1 (31:57):
That's 

Speaker 2 (31:57):
It. 

Speaker 1 (31:58):
And 

Speaker 2 (31:58):
There's a little part of me that wants them all to not be guilty like they claimed they were. And so Mrs. Peacock lets them do that, I guess. 

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Well, I didn't get to air my final grievance about the game. Clue. 

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Okay. Let's hear 

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Is just that I know since Sarah sits right next to me, I'm sure she's heard me complain about the game Clue before. Yeah. Well, 

Speaker 2 (32:23):
How often do you guys play Clue at Work? 

Speaker 3 (32:25):
More often than you think? Yeah, 

Speaker 1 (32:28):
But no, I don't. I just dislike the idea that this is not at all how you would solve a murder. The whole setup of the game is like, it sounds like it's going to be really fun. It sounds like everything I would love. And eight-year-old Russell did Love Clue and a lot of different editions of Clue. But in hindsight, I realized I liked all of the atmosphere around Clue. I like the idea of being in a mansion where a murder has happened and all these quirky characters. Essentially, I like the movie. And then when you actually play the game though, it's like there's a body. And then the way to figure out the murder is not about actual detective work other than just figuring out everything that didn't happen. So instead of, I just dislike the idea that if somebody shoots somebody, you don't know that they were shot because of bullet holes. You just know it because it wasn't the candlestick. 

Speaker 3 (33:22):
I think that you're going to be sued by clue. 

Speaker 2 (33:25):
For 

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Definition, 

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Hasbro is coming after you. 

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Defamation of a game, a 

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Classic game. 

Speaker 1 (33:30):
I just feel like there would be a more fun way to play this game. I don't know. 

Speaker 3 (33:34):
I agree. I want to throw the forensics in there. 

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Ooh, that'd be fun. I feel like there are versions that get more, someone was saying there's Clue in a museum or something and they 

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Get more specific. I have the clue. The Great Museum Caper. 

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yes. 

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Which is the most fun version of Clue because, and we should have played it for this episode, we should probably have one person plays the Art Thief, and you go around and you steal paintings in secret. You make all your moves on paper, and after your turn, you remove the painting that you've already stolen. So you're a few steps away. And then everyone else is trying to catch you. 

Speaker 2 (34:12):
And 

Speaker 1 (34:12):
They can use security cameras and different things to find you. And then when somebody spots, you have to put a pawn on the board and it's pretty quick. You play it usually multiple times. So everyone gets to play the thief and then the winners, whoever's stolen the most paintings, 

Speaker 3 (34:30):
That's how it works in the real museum setting. 

Speaker 2 (34:32):
That's right. 

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Whoever steals the most paintings wins. 

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Wins. We all already have a leg up. We work here. 

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah, that's true. We 

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Can get in on off hours. 

Speaker 3 (34:42):
So not only are we going to get sued by Clue, we're also going to get Fired. Fired. 

Speaker 2 (34:46):
This is the last podcast that Russell, 

Speaker 1 (34:49):
It's been real. 

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Well, Russell, I would invite you, I do, on the weekends, I do this dinner detective thing where it's all live people and you have to figure it out. And especially people like you who like the idea of figuring it out. People come in screaming and they've been shot, and guns go off and people have been stabbed and all this stuff. People get super duper into it, and it is, there's all these different kinds of clues and you have to figure them out and dates and numbers and money, transactions and all of that fun stuff. So it is called the Dinner Detective. For anyone who's interested, it's 

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Always the person you lease to suspect. 

Speaker 2 (35:21):
It is. 

Speaker 1 (35:23):
I just can't imagine. We get to the body, they have a rope around their neck, and then we're just like, I don't know. Let's see if we can, what 

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Happens? 

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Find the gun, the candlestick, the wrench. 

Speaker 2 (35:33):
We got to check all of them 

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Before we know they were strangled. 

Speaker 2 (35:37):
And then there's no real description. It's just because that the card is in the clue file that that's the person who did it. No. 

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah. There's not a lot of backstory 

Speaker 3 (35:48):
To it, but I feel like with the suspects, that process of elimination might be almost close to happens. 

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, that's true. With the suspects, it's like, okay, they have an alibi sort of 

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Idea. 

Speaker 1 (36:00):
They couldn't have been here. 

Speaker 3 (36:02):
You have to interrogate all of the suspects. 

Speaker 2 (36:04):
But I feel like that's why we love the movie so much is because it's interesting to see how they're all connected to each other and Monkey Brains and you that, you know what I mean? It's fun to see how they all coexist in an actual house together. 

Speaker 1 (36:17):
And for me, it was always all about being in a creepy mansion again. 

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Dustin Glitter. Russell's aesthetic. Cobwebs and Glitter. Oh, cobwebs. Sorry. 

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah. As the movie Labyrinth etched into my mind at a young age, cobwebs and glitter. Well, yeah, I guess Clue just has the cobwebs. Not so much glitter. I 

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Don't know. There's a 

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Lot of shiny stuff. And there's the CLINs, there's some shines. 

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, there's some spark. There's some sparkles on some dresses, I guess. I feel like there's 

Speaker 3 (36:47):
A glitz about it. 

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yes, there is. 

Speaker 1 (36:49):
But we were talking about other movies I liked as a kid and Haunted Honeymoon, which you had never seen. 

Speaker 3 (36:55):
No, I don't know what that is. 

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Nobody's seen this apparently, but 

Speaker 2 (36:58):
I've never even heard of this. I want you to know that. Oh 

Speaker 1 (36:59):
My gosh, it's so good. With Gilda Radner. And 

Speaker 2 (37:03):
You're saying Radner 

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Was in other things besides S N L? Yeah. 

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Well, gene Wilder, her husband, I directed it. And so Gene Wilder and Gilder Radner and Dom DeLuise in drag is in Haunted Honeymoon. 

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Oh my gosh. So 

Speaker 1 (37:19):
It was another movie that takes place in an old mansion that I would've loved at the same time, because that's all it took for Russell to love a movie. Also kind of like hocus pocus movies that are kind scary, but not really scary. At that age, I was afraid of actual horror movies, but movies that just kind flirted with horror. 

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Do you know what movie was actually terrifying back then? Hunchback of Notre Dame. That movie is terrifying. 

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Wait, the Disney version? 

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yes. It's terrifying. Sanctuary and people burning at the Stake. And those creepy when they go into the Gypsy Village and stuff and they're like Bones and coming out, it was terrifying. Terrifying. That's 

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Just what Paris is like. 

Speaker 1 (38:03):
This is also where Kristen reveals that she's a lot younger than me at least, because I'm sorry you're back then. And I was like, that's not at all the same time period. That's like 10 years later. 

Speaker 2 (38:12):
No, I know. No, no, no. I know, but I'm just saying that movie. Its a child's movie. 

Speaker 1 (38:17):
You were, yeah. For you, it's, I'm 

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Sorry. The 

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Same. 

Speaker 2 (38:20):
I'm a Nugget, guys. 

Speaker 1 (38:21):
I know, 

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Baby. It was just a little, just a little r 

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Oh, thank you. Oh, very nice. I 

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Really want there to be a video version of how your face looks you when you do your Yvette 

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Voice. This has been Christian Vincent. Signing off. Signing off. Yvette. Yvette will live on over. 

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Thank you for listening to Art Palace. We hope you'll be inspired to come visit the Cincinnati Art Museum and have conversations about the art yourself. General admission to the museum is always free, and we also offer free parking. Special exhibitions on view right now are a shared legacy folk art in America, William KenRidge. More sweetly play the dance Tiffany Glass painting with color and light and aila ca aga. All the flowers are for me. Don't miss art after dark, laid back luau On Friday, July 28th from five to 9:00 PM Wear your Hawaiian shirts and grass skirts to enjoy live music from the cliff tones, specialty cocktails, exclusive access to the museum and food for purchase from Eli's Barbecue and the Terrace Cafe. For more information, visit cincinnati art museum.org. You can follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Snapchat. Our theme song is Efron Music by Lau. I was going to mention leaving a five star review on iTunes, but you already did it, so why waste your time? I'm Russell Iig, and this has been Art Palace produced by the Cincinnati Art Museum. I.